There Is Forgiveness?

Show Notes for Season 4, Episode 3

I admit it, this is going to be a “slap-dash” posting. I am behind with show notes and want to catch up. So….

With the main topic Jonathan and Darin finish their conversation about sin and talk about the role of the cross. They look at a couple of different views:

Substitutionary Atonement – Christ died for our sins, plain and simple. Not much emphasis on the resurrection, but that wasn’t as hard as the crucifixion so should not have that great of an impact

Existential Christianity (via Paul Tillich) – In the crucifixion and the resurrection we see the greatest despair and in response the greatest hope. The crucifixion shows us how far humanity can fall and the resurrection show us how much God can love (there is no limit). Great view of the resurrection, but not a great view of the crucifixion.

Rene Girard – Scapegoat theory and more! Basically in the crucifixion Christ takes on the desires and rage and jealousy of humanity and ends the cycle (or demonstrates it for the world to see). In the resurrection the cycles is full broken. Keeps a sense of the atonement but weak on resurrection.

What both Jonathan and Darin are trying to say is that the crucifixion and resurrection are important, perhaps the apex of Christian faith, and needs to be taken seriously. It also means that it cannot be neatly packaged into one idea or another but always pushes beyond.

Rialige –

Jonathan is ticked off at the Methodist campaign about “rethinkingchurch” – it is nothing new or radical, just ignored

Darin offers a list of the worst companies when it comes to employ payment. Get ready to feel guilty (at least it isn’t Walmart).

Opening the Word -

Deuteronomy 26:1-11

Remember that what you have is from God, what you gain is from God, and please, please, please remember to offer thanks to God!

Watcha Into -

Jonathan is snotty and is watching Ingmar Bergman’s Through a Glass Darkly

Darin is watching one of the greatest shows ever: Firefly

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Sin, Sin, Sin, Sin

Show Notes for Season4, Episode 1

<<NOTE: Sing the title of the post to the Monty Python "Spam" song>>

We’re getting our sin on! Considering the economy, the crime rate, the general drop in beautiful people, can you blame us for looking to get a little sinful? In this historic first episode with Darin Collins we begin what looks like will be a three-part series on sin.

Jonathan is trying to tow an orthodox line by starting with Augustine and bringing in a little bit of Aquinas. Who would have thought that Jonathan could actually be orthodox? Darin, on the other hand, is a madman who goes right to James McClendon’s understanding of sin (from his systematic theology). Darin has no sense of boundary or propriety.

Here is a basic break-down. Sin can be an individual thing, a breaking of relationships with God and others. That is not good and makes everyone sad.

Sin can also be a social thing, a sense of not living with the ordering of the reign of God (or as Yoder might say, with the grain of the universe). We are not fully aware of how we sin until we embrace the grace of Christ. It is at that point when our eyes are opened to the ways that God desires us to live. Once again, when we do not live in a way that fits with God’s reign then everyone is sad.

In conclusion, sin makes people (and God) sad.

Railige:

Darin hates the 1%. Actually he doesn’t hate the 1%, he just hates the way they seem to be getting all of the profit gains while the majority are working more and having nothing to show for it.

Jonathan is angry at crazy reconstructionist Christians who seem to be pushing for a total government collapse that can be replaced with a theocracy. Why can’t Jonathan just relax?

Opening the Word:

John 7:37-39

Darin tackles this one and offers a transgendered view of Jesus (not really, but kinda). Read it and look for Christ’s new creation.

Whatca’ Into?

Darin is watching Hunted (not to be confused with the 1980s classic Hunter) – a happy, go-lucky show about a family learning about the great outdoors and the grandeur of God’s creation. Actually it is a Cinemax show that deals with morality, betrayal, and has great fight scenes.

Jonathan is reading Foucault. <Nerd!> Something about Discipline and Punishment and is keeping an open mind about how the church can adopt more discipline and punishment when it comes to sin.

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