Wednesday, October 29, 2014

Jesus Once, Jesus, Twice, Jesus Three Times...


Guest Host – Rev. Phineas Marr, pastor of the First BaptistChurch of Kenosha, WI and Adjunct Professor of Religion at Carthage College



Bible Suite, Movement 3 – The Gospels

Our first ever Skype episode – still working out the kinks, but it is promising. For this episode Jonathan is joined by his old friend and one-time mentor Phin Marr. Jonathan and Phin ponder why it is that we have four different stories of Jesus. Really, shouldn’t one be enough?

Each gospel offers a different perspective of Jesus, a different approach and understanding of who Jesus is and there may be some wisdom to this. You can never know someone fully through just one perspective, so with four we find a greater depth to the person and work of Jesus Christ. Perhaps then you can try to offer a fifth perspective (and we always like a fifth) – which would be yours. Listen to the episode, their pithy summary of the different gospels, and consider what your story of Jesus might be.

Rialage –
Phin is from New Jersey, so he is always anger. However, he is especially angry about people telling lies to convince youth to become Christian. Are we really that desperate to bring people to Christ?

Jonathan is angry about the remake of the Left Behind movie. Wasn’t once enough?

Scripture-
2 Corinthians 5:16-17
Free yourself from literal reading!

Watcha’ Into
Phin isn’t really sure what he is into. He certainly isn’t into the pop radio top 10, but recommends that people listen to the Beatles classic, The White Album. He also likes Flash, and Gotham

Jonathan is reading A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith. He has a blog post here.

Again, thanks for listening. Send your comments and questions to 12ecast@gmail.com and don’t forget to rate the show on iTunes.

Next episode, a break from the Bible Suite and a look at economic justice

Guest Host – Rev. Dr. Bill Trench

Wednesday, October 15, 2014

Quiet, I'm Reading and Praying at the Same Time!


Guest Host – Rev. Dr. Linda Forsberg, pastor of FirstLutheran Church in East Greenwich

Bible Suite, Movement 2 – Lectio Divina

It is great to have Linda back! Before you read any further, check out her blog which has lots of good stuff. 



After all of the drama and intensity of the previous episodeit will be good to consider a more thoughtful, contemplative approach to scripture. Linda not only brings a calming presence to the episode but a good, in-depth knowledge of the practice of Lectio Divina. Basically, Lectio Divina is a way of reading scripture that calls the reader to be aware of the ways in which God may be engaging the reader through that reading. The text is read four times:

Lectio – asking God what it is that you need to hear
Meditatio – asking God what it is that you need to learn
Oratio – asking God what it is that you need to do
Contemplatio – surrendering to God

With each reading one is called to listen for the ways in which God is present in that moment. It is a different way of reading the Bible from the standard Protestant approach of extensive word studies, in-depth historical overview, and focusing on other forms of minutia. There is something to be said to taking time to just listen for the way God is speaking through a passage.

Rialage –
Linda is angry about bad theology that can be harmful and damaging – spoiler alert, she is not fond of original sin (but who is?)

Jonathan is ticked at people who are pro-climate change and those who decide to do nothing about it, those lazy people who keep living the same way, who don’t make any sacrifices, and never want to change the way they live. Basically, Jonathan is angry at Jonathan.

Scripture-
Ezekiel 18:1-4, 25-32
A rare, calm moment for Ezekiel when he rails against bad theology… it is no surprise that it is used on this podcast

Watcha’ Into
Linda is into 100 miles of bicycle riding as a way to increase awareness of the “Church Beyond Walls” in Providence, RI

Jonathan is into the Bach Cello Suites. He is into playing them on the bassoon which can be problematic or a shock for many cellists, but what does he care, he is a bassoonist!

Again, thanks for listening. Send your comments and questions to 12ecast@gmail.com and don’t forget to rate the show on iTunes.

Next episode, Bible Suite, 3rd movement – The Four Gospels

Guest Host – Rev. Phineas Marr

Monday, October 6, 2014

Let's Start With the Text

Season 5, Episode 11 – Be Careful What You Read!

Guest Host – show favorite, Rev. Darin R. Collins of Berean Baptist Church in Burrillville, RI














In the first installment/movement of his “Bible Suite” Jonathan is joined by Darin to discuss… the Bible. Let’s start with the simple question, how do you read this thing? Darin throws a wrench in just that question by looking at the story of Noah and the Flood (Genesis 5:32-10:1). He brings up the tricky aspect of God planning on destroying the majority of humanity, offers some hermeneutical acrobatics to get around such a reading, and yet is still unsettled. Part of the difficulty is not just the horrific aspects of scripture (rape, murder, betrayal, hatred, oppression, etc.), but the many times that scripture contradicts itself (such as when Jesus corrects a certain interpretations of scripture… “you have heard it said, but I say unto you” Matthew 5:17-48 as an example). It is a tricky thing to read the Bible.

What Jonathan and Darin do is engage the difficulties and complexities of scripture with some honesty and some confusion. If nothing else they stress the importance of reading scripture in a community. It is very important to read the Bible with a group… maybe a book group. You can have a glass of wine while you read which is Biblical because wine is Biblical.

Jonathan did write a whole blog post about this Bible reading thing - read it here

Anyway, read your Bible, but do it with others because it is not an easy thing to figure out.

Rialage –
Spiritual Obesity! Churches grow quickly (like Joel Osteen’s or Mark Dricsoll’s) on a foundation of weak, thin theology, certainty without questioning, feel-good answers, and basic processed crap. This is leading to a spiritual obesity epidemic in our country where people are not getting the whole-grain, home-grown, organic, and crunchy goodness of the gospel. It isn’t healthy.

Scripture-
2 Timothy 3:14-17
All scripture is “inspired” by God and will make you a better person if you let it.

Watcha’ Into
Darin is smarter than he thinks, reading another John Caputo book: The Insistence of God: A Theologyof Perhaps – good for you, Darin!



Jonathan needs to dumb it down – he is reading The Confessions by Augustine of Hippo




Again, thanks for listening. Send your comments and questions to 12ecast@gmail.com and don’t forget to rate the show on iTunes.