Guest host – Father Jakob Lazarus Thibault, pastor of the
Church of the Holy Paraclete – his second time… has he not yet learned?
What does a Baptist know about Saints? Not much. It is not a
part of his low-church, Protestant evangelical, tradition. That is why Jonathan
returned once again to his go-to Catholic, Fr. Jakob Thibault. Jakob tries to
guide Jonathan to a place where he can embrace the notion of the presence of
the saints in his life while sneaking in a heaping of Thomas Aquinas in the
process.
When it comes to talking and thinking about saints it is
important to start with the promise of the cross – life with God. The
resurrection of Christ is assurance Christians claim of that life with God. If
we believe in this resurrection, and we believe that we are assured life with
God, then there is room to believe that those who have died are living with God
and can have a presence in our lives. The veil between life and death is thin.
The idea of saints is, in part, lifting up those who lived
extraordinary lives and looking to those people for inspiration, guidance, and
prayers in our own lives. Such a notion does not seem too difficult for
Jonathan to understand, but sometimes he is slow.
Jonathan and Jakob did spend some time talking about the
mechanics of the process and perhaps suggest that things move a little too
quickly, that it may be a little too political, and that perhaps everyone
should slow down before labeling someone a saint. But who is going to listen to
them? Jonathan would make a great Devil’s Advocate… hint, hint.
Finally, the book Jonathan mentioned is, Thank You Saint Jude by Robert Orsi, and
the movie that Jakob mentioned is Millions.
Rialage –
Jakob is angry about contractors and the like not following
through with what they said they would do. If you cannot take someone at their
word, then what do you have?
Jonathan is angry about Albert Mohler’s view of Original
Sin. See his blog post here for the full rant. Clearly Jonathan needs to read
more Thomas Aquinas.
Scripture-
John 7:37-39 – a secondary passage to the Pentecost story
highlighting the nature and the presence of the Holy Spirit. An important part
of a Christian’s faith and life in the here and now!
Here is a picture of the candle mentioned in the podcast:
Watcha’ Into
Jakob is into math and preparing for his GREs. Weird.
Jonathan is into the Rhode Island Fruit Growers Association
Farm Scavenger Hunt. Also weird.
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Next episode – Forgiveness and Reconciliation with Andy
Arndt
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